First civil unions, second gay marriage, and then beyond marriage—the smoking gun on more gay agenda

We have heard all the liberal lies before, so why are people still being duped by liberal propaganda regarding gay marriage; why are they still being duped by feel-good slogans such as ‘New Zealand needs to stamp out discrimination’ and ‘New Zealand needs marriage equality,’ etc., etc?

The answer to that is simple: New Zealanders have been hammered with gay propaganda for decades, and even though they know gay marriage is wrong, they succumb; they simply succumb to the screeching cries of discrimination! discrimination! discrimination! and they want the problem to go away; they want to take a Panadol and go to sleep.

Liberals are all too aware that relentless pressure will make even the most ardent opposition succumb; they know the correct strategy is not to hit the opposition head on, it is to creep; it is to get the camel’s nose under the tent and then slowly get the whole body in.

You didn’t see Helen Clark, pushing for gay marriage and adoption, did you? You saw her push for civil unions (the camel’s nose) first. She knew this would be an acceptable solution as resisters would buy into her falsehood that marriage would be protected.

This is what Helen Clark said to the NZ Herald at the time:   

“Should people who want to have legal recognition of a marriage be able to get it? The Government says yes, but you can’t marry. Marriage is only for heterosexuals. The Government is not—underline—not, changing the Marriage Act. That will remain as an option only for heterosexual couples.”

And here we are eight years later with gay marriage on the table and gay adoption in the wings, but if you think it’s going to stop there, it’s time to dig your deluded head out of the sand; it’s not going to stop there.

Urban Redneck, a commenter on this site, sent me a link to a website which directed me to what appears to be a newly formed gay organisation called The Queer Avengers which openly states its intention beyond gay marriage if it gets legalised.

Note:  As these young radicals can be very vindictive I haven’t posted a link, but you can easily find them: thequeeravengers.org.nz

Even though the organisation doesn’t appear to be very professional, it must be taken seriously as it collaborates with other organisations such as Legalise Love and The Campaign for Marriage Equality Wellington group. See the November/December conference they are having at the bottom of this post.

In a ‘Beyond Marriage’ link on The Queer Avengers’ site they openly state their intentions beyond gay marriage:

"We aim to highlight the limitations of marriage and adoption law, while supporting the call for marriage equality.

There are three main prongs to this goal:

• Underlining that this is not the end of the line for LGBT struggles. Continuing obstacles include bullying, suicide and homelessness among LGBT youth, inadequate access to quality healthcare for trans* people and common intimidation and violence in the streets.
• Telling the stories of relationships, and family structures, excluded or oppressed by marriage law – including polyamory and whangai adoption.
• Highlighting how the state uses marriage law to police relationships, and structure access to resources. For example, how those in “relationships in the nature of marriage” are denied access to state support.”

Essentially, the above is the crux of what’s in store for New Zealand if the gay marriage bill passes. The ‘bullying,’ etc., will mean more brainwashing in our schools; it will mean gender-neutral text books and words that are deemed offensive to gays like ‘mum’ and ‘dad’ will be banned.

 The ‘inadequate access to quality healthcare for trans*people’ will mean tax-payer funded transgender, sex-change operations.

‘Polyamory,’ the state or practice of having more than one open romantic relationship at a time, will eventually be legalised, which essentially means polygamy will be included. This clearly illustrates how Louisa Wall is lying when she says she opposes polyamory and polygamy.

‘Whangai adoption,’ extended families, will eventually be legalised.

Read The Queer Avengers’ policy:

“Below is a draft statement of our kaupapa. We expect to be revising it further in the current weeks.

We are an activist group. We know, we have seen, and we have experienced the hurt and the loss caused by homophobia, biphobia and transphobia. We are motivated by sadness, by anger and by love. We refuse to rely on the broken logic of this broken system to fight against it. We value collective action in the fight against injustice and the creation of societal change.

We stand in solidarity with those fighting other forms of oppression. We acknowledge that there are many amongst us who are oppressed in multiple ways, and we value our diversity. We fight against the pigeonholes we have been squeezed into; we fight for the freedom to define ourselves or not as we choose.

We are not just fighting for physical safety and legal equality. We are fighting for liberation, for empowerment, for visibility and respect of us as we are, as we may be, as we want to be. Our identities are positive, not some misfortune to be tolerated.

We are an activist group, but we are more than an activist group. We aim to create a sense of community in our meetings, our events and our networks. We seek to create a space that is positive and supportive, that enables a sense of connectedness and belonging.”

The ‘creation of societal change’ means more social engineering. ‘Empowerment, for visibility and respect of us as we are’ means special representation rights for gays in local and central government, government departments, and in education, etc.

Gay marriage is only the beginning of the nightmare!

Read the November/December conference agenda to be held in Wellington:

“The Campaign for Marriage Equality Wellington group, Queer Avengers and LegaliseLove are collaborating on a national conference to discuss the struggle for marriage equality, queer struggles and beyond. The Queer Avengers stream will focus on queer struggles beyond marriage equality.

10-10.50am – Trans* forum
A space to discuss issues important to trans* communities, including but not limited to the struggle for marriage equality. Facilitated by Dee, a trans* support worker.

11-11.50am – Pasifika women’s forum
Discussion of Pasifika women in the struggle for sexual freedom.

12-1pm – Lunch break

1-1.50pm –“Nothing less than full equality”: Gay Liberation Front in US & NZ
In 1969 in New York, the Stonewall riots led to the founding of the first Gay Liberation Front. In 1972, takataapui/lesbian activist Ngahuia te Awekotuku was denied a visa on the basis of her sexuality, leading to the founding of the first Gay Liberation Front in Aotearoa/NZ.
Ian Anderson, a student activist in socialist and queer politics, leads a discussion on the history of Gay Liberation groups in the US and NZ.
Facilitated by Kassie Hartendorp.

2pm-3.20pm – Beyond Marriage forum: Relationships and the state
The Queer Avengers call for a struggle beyond marriage. This Beyond Marriage panel will look into the history of marriage, family, politics, economics and society.
Bill Logan, long-time queer activist and general nuisance, will speak on the case for keeping the state out of marriage.
Anne Russell, a journalist for Scoop, will speak on reinventing relationships.
Facilitated by Ian Anderson.

3.30pm-4.50pm – Beyond Marriage forum: Diversity and intersection
The Queer Avengers call for a struggle beyond marriage. This panel will look at the diversity of queer communities, and why this is important in our political work.
Anna Caro, a Queer Avengers activist, will speak on the intersection of queer and disability struggles.
Brooklynne Kennedy, a trans* advocate, will speak on trans* struggles for marriage and beyond.
Facilitated by Kassie Hartendorp.”